Posts by xii5ku

1) Message boards : News : Форум (Message 6559)
Posted 8 Oct 2020 by xii5ku
Post:
scole of TSBT wrote:
Why did this project stop generating work?
The admin knows the answer, but the most plausible reason is that the work generator is configured to stay beneath a limit of tasks in progress, or beneath a limit of tasks in the database, or a similar limit to keep the database size in check.

scole of TSBT wrote:
The amount of work completed over the past 7 days averages to almost double the average daily work over the past 40 days. We were glad to help.
Big deal. I alone have been producing at the same order of magnitude here occasionally, *without* preventing anybody else from contributing here.
2) Message boards : News : Форум (Message 6546)
Posted 7 Oct 2020 by xii5ku
Post:
PecosRiverM wrote:
Somebody can't count.
The first project in the list had 0 tasks ready to send.
The next project in the list had non-zero ready to send.
Somebody could count at least this far.

PecosRiverM wrote:
Who said the goal was for a "Sprint"?
I have no idea about your goals.
However, a statement about formula-boinc.org's goals can be found right at the home page.
3) Message boards : Number crunching : Formula BOINC sprints (Message 6515)
Posted 4 Oct 2020 by xii5ku
Post:
(I am commenting on some postings in a now locked thread here. I hope the forum owners don't see this as a breach of etiquette. I am not commenting on the various assumptions what some users or teams are presumably doing.)

Regarding the Formula BOINC sprint schedule:
Bryan wrote:

Natalia Makarova wrote:

I see two canceled Sprints

02/04/2020 17:00 (UTC) - 05/04/2020 16:59 (UTC)
Canceled
04/06/2020 20:00 (UTC) - 07/06/2020 19:59 (UTC)
Canceled

Is this tactic of some teams the reason?
What should other teams do in the competition if there are no tasks in the project?
My opinion: the Sprint policy should be changed.
No it has nothing to do with tactics. The FB Sprints followed the same dates as the real Formula 1 racing season. When the F1 season was interrupted because of Covid-19 then they cancelled the Formula BOINC sprints. Later they implemented FB sprints on their own schedule.
I suspect the first cancellation, which happened right away at the announcement time of the sprint on April 1, was because Rosetta@home was voted into the sprint project. At this time Rosetta was in one of its occasional periods when it does not have work.

The second cancellation definitely had nothing to do with F1 cancellations. It was the sprint at Wanless Mersenne +2, during which the project owner suspended operation. Sébastien cancelled this sprint retroactively.


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Regarding suitability of projects for Formula BOINC sprints:
VietOZ wrote:
There are 5 Sprints left
possible projects are ODLK, ODLK1, Amicable, NFS, NF, and SRBase. Cosmo is up and down, T.Brada hosted on a Rpi. Seti and Enigma are dead. Yafu won't have enough work. And Gerasism is only Windows.
As far as I can tell, ODLK and ODLK1 are in the very same category as T.Brada, although we only have the precise specs of the T.Brada server. (2 GB RAM, no further comment needed.)

The Yoyo@home server probably still is in the same category, but its owner keeps the configuration very very tight.

YAFU always has work, but is somewhat slow in generating it. Perhaps too slow for a sprint, I am not sure.


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Regarding sprint participants' computer capacity:
xii5ku wrote:
As an example, here are the sums of credits of all teams in Yoyo@home sprints throughout the years:
March 2017: 20 Million
August 2018: 59 Million
October 2019: 38 Million
September 2020: 63 Million
Numbers like this are significantly influenced by whether or not Gridcoin is present at a project. These are the four Yoyo@home sprint totals without Gridcoin's part:
March 2017: 18 Million
August 2018: 49 Million
October 2019: 32 Million
September 2020: 58 Million

The change from March 2017 to August 2018 is partially because 2017 was the first year of Formula BOINC's sprint format, and its Yoyo@home sprint was even the very first sprint in it, hence fewer teams and users were active in it.

The slump from 2018 to 2019 is partially because some teams who took part in the 2018 Yoyo@home sprint no longer did so in the 2019 and 2020 sprints.

Otherwise, we are obviously seeing here how users who are active in Distributed Computing modernize their hardware.
4) Message boards : News : Форум (Message 6496)
Posted 3 Oct 2020 by xii5ku
Post:
Natalia Makarova wrote:
xii5ku wrote:
Of course, as far as I know, the ОДЛК server is too small to host a Formula BOINC sprint. But Sébastien, who organizes Formula BOINC, put it on the list of sprint candidate projects regardless.

Ну, о Спринте и о Марафоне в Formula кое-что знаем :)

И Спринт однажды в проекте ОДЛК проводился
https://boinc.progger.info/odlk/forum_thread.php?id=91&postid=2438

Ничего, справились!
My impression is:
– From year to year, fewer users participate in the Formula BOINC sprints, because users give up on it due to all the unsolved problems at Formula BOINC.
– But the users who remain tend to acquire more and more computer capacity through the years.

As an example, here are the sums of credits of all teams in Yoyo@home sprints throughout the years:
March 2017: 20 Million
August 2018: 59 Million
October 2019: 38 Million
September 2020: 63 Million


Natalia Makarova wrote:
Не думаю, что кто-то "нахомячил" WU для "вдруг проект будет выбран для Спринта".
Здесь что-то другое, по-моему.
Ну, скоро выяснится.
There are a few users who always bunker speculatively for some projects during the week before each Formula BOINC sprint. Especially during the later part of the year, when fewer projects remain to be selected for a sprint.

Although nobody speculated on ОДЛК to this reckless extent yet.
5) Message boards : News : Форум (Message 6487)
Posted 3 Oct 2020 by xii5ku
Post:
Natalia Makarova wrote:

Кто это к нам в проект пришёл и разобрал почти все задания? :)

It was somebody whose team participates in Formula BOINC. (It's not TeAm AnandTech who downloaded this many tasks.)


Natalia Makarova wrote:

Посмотрела: в спринте не участвует проект, других соревнований нет.

But ОДЛК does participate in current contests:

First, there is the Formula BOINC marathon which goes through the entire year.

Second, and more importantly, there is the next Formula BOINC sprint which is scheduled to start on Thursday, October 8, 15:00 UTC. The ~500,000 tasks which were downloaded since last Thursday have a deadline shortly after the start of the sprint.

We don't know yet which project will be chosen for the next sprint, but ОДЛК is among the few projects which were not yet selected for a sprint during this year. The sprint project is scheduled to be announced 24 h before the start of the sprint.

a) If ОДЛК is chosen for the sprint, expect that the individual who downloaded the ~500,000 tasks will attempt to report them during the short period between start of the sprint and deadline of the tasks.

b) If another project is chosen, the individual may attempt to start to report the result already right after the announcement.

Of course, as far as I know, the ОДЛК server is too small to host a Formula BOINC sprint. But Sébastien, who organizes Formula BOINC, put it on the list of sprint candidate projects regardless.
6) Message boards : Number crunching : ODLK has been chosen for FB Sprint Event (Message 2476)
Posted 28 Sep 2018 by xii5ku
Post:
[H]Skillz,
I assume that the admin isn't a robot, and that he lives in the UTC+03:00 time zone. This puts the start of the sprint at midnight local time. Not a perfect time for being proactive. (And maybe the admin even has a day job to attend to or something. Actually, most DC project admins do.)
7) Message boards : Number crunching : ODLK has been chosen for FB Sprint Event (Message 2471)
Posted 28 Sep 2018 by xii5ku
Post:
Regarding inclusion of ODLK as a sprint project, there was a discussion in December 2017 on which projects to make candidates for 2018 sprints:
http://formula-boinc.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=100

This was when ODLK and ODLK1 were added, among others. I don't know whether the Formula Boinc admin Sebastien or anybody else approached the respective admins during this discussion.

Regarding preparation for any individual sprint, Sebastien once stated that while the project of an upcoming sprint is selected at random, he performs some manual checks before the sprint announcement. However, my understanding is that Sebastien never contacts the project admins.

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H|Skillz wrote:
So what you're saying is you couldn't careless about our free help? Cool.

No, what @Natalia Makarova was saying is that the project is run on a home server.

Meanwhile, it seems @Progger took care of the server very early in the morning. Feeder, validators, work generators etc. were down soon after the beginning of the sprint, but they are all running now.

There continue to be HTTP timeouts, but at least all server functions appear to be working.




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